Today, Jim and Greg once again take the rare step of bringing a special guest to the 3 Martini Lunch. Today, they welcome in former White House Press Secretary Dana Perino, who is now co-host of "The Five" and "America's Newsroom" on the Fox News Channel. She was also a moderator for one of the Republican presidential primary debates.

They begin with a discussion of the White House press office, how Perino approached the job during the final years of the George W. Bush administration, how Karine Jean-Pierre is handling the duties, and where the blame properly lies for the communications problems within the Biden White House.

Next, they turn to the 2024 presidential campaign and why Perino believes the report from Special Counsel Robert Hur amounts to the "death knell" for the Biden re-election campaign. They also examine how to maintain viewer interest when the major party primaries are very one-sided, and her thoughts after seeing the results of the Nevada GOP primary.

Finally, they reflect upon Perino's opportunity to co-moderate one of the Republican primary presidential debates, what it was like to be in the middle of the fray, and why she believes the current format of debates no longer serve the public well.

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