We first talked to influencers Michael and Matthew for GED Magazine almost a year and a half ago. This married couple who first met through coming out YouTube videos have built a social media empire (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Grindr – just kidding they aren’t on Grindr), that started out covering their many travels around the world. Their travel blog has evolved to encompass the day-to-day of their married life and, their most recent mission, parenthood. This month, they debut their podcast Who’s Your Daddy? which details the intimate struggles of becoming parents through non-traditional means. Meeting with industry experts and guests who have quite literally manifested forming a family themselves, they’re learning how to make it all happen through the process of surrogacy, IVF, private adoption, and foster-to-adopt.

On this episode of US of Gay, we catch up with the boys and talk about the realities of married life and social media, open relationships, what made them decide to have kids, what avenues towards parenthood they have explored, homophobia in the world of surrogacy and how it doesn’t just affect parents, all about their new podcast, what they’ve learned from their podcast guests, and more! Hosted by Alexander Rodriguez.