In this week's episode we have the honor of interviewing Rev. Todd Silau about pilgrimage and his unique approach to ministry. We discuss the concept of pilgrimage and how it relates to being on the move and being a stranger in a new place. We also explore the idea of deconstructed ecclesiology and the importance of being a good guest when engaging with different communities.

Todd shares his experiences of being on the road with his band and how it has shaped his understanding of pilgrimage. He emphasizes the significance of vulnerability and the role it plays in creating safe and brave spaces for meaningful conversations and generally the importance of intention, vulnerability, and creating sacred space. 

Sound Bites

• "A pilgrim is someone on the move."
• "When you change power structures around, it changes everything."
• "When you're a pilgrim, you're the one that needs more grace than the place and the people that you're visiting."

References:

• Orlando's Little-While Friends
• Answering God by Eugene Peterson
• Rev. Todd Seelau's Ministry X-ILE

Chapters00:00 Introduction and Background
14:27 Defining Pilgrimage and Holy Ground
20:08 Deconstructed Ecclesiology and Being a Good Guest
27:23  The Power of Vulnerability in Ministry
30:57Companions on the Pilgrimage Journey
38:15 Mapping the Future of the Pilgrimage
41:25 The Influence of Upbringing and Church Community
48:52 Embracing New Perspectives and Taking Risks
53:08 Learning from Unexpected Teachers and Stories
56:15 The Power of Storytelling in Pilgrimage
01:03:55 Moving Forward: Next Steps in the Pilgrimage Journey
01:11:18 The Significance of the Body in Pilgrimage
01:13:46 Discovering the Gold Within: The Journey of Life