In Episode 69 Dr. Nicholas Ng-A-Fook hosts Dr. Leyton Schnellert, an Associate Professor, at the University of British Columbia and Co-Director of the Canadian Institute for Inclusion and Citizenship. Our conversation examines his decades of community-engaged research with rural communities and self-advocates across British Columbia. We discuss Growing Innovation in Rural Sites of Learning and how rural educators are resisting deficit narratives by cultivating rural cultural wealth, community-based inquiry, and place-conscious pedagogies in the face of teacher shortages and the persistent urban pull. Dr. Leyton Schnellert also reflects on participatory disability theatre projects, such as but not limited to The Right to Love and Be Loved, where self-advocates with intellectual and developmental disabilities (IDD) claim space and voice their terms for doing theatre and social justice research. We talk about ethical relationality and decolonization in education change networks, learning alongside and from Indigenous community partners, Knowledge Keepers, and the land itself. Throughout the conversation, we return to themes of unlearning, liminality, consent, and uncertainty. We take up how meaningful change rarely follows a script. Dr. Leyton Schnellert shares stories of driving rural mountain roads, visiting smaller school communities, and (un)learning from students and self-advocates whose interruptions invite us to do education and research differently. Finally, he calls on us to consider what it means to do the beautiful, unfinished work of making education a more inclusive place for all.