Sara welcomes Jerry Torres, a documentary filmmaker and former CEO of a major defense contractor, to discuss what he's learned from interviewing cartel leaders in El Salvador. Torres explains horrific realities like cartels operating aggressively in American cities, trafficking migrants all the way to their new homes in the U.S., the human "down payment" for getting smuggled into the U.S., and how some of our border agents are part of the problem.

Sara also discusses how governors are approaching the border crisis since the Biden administration refuse to confront it and the long-term danger we face from China clearly dominating cybersecurity and artificial intelligence.


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