Chris Ernst, Super Infra Man, and Red Pill Junkie. A fascinating discussion occurs. Topics include the "official UAP disclosure report", the militarization of space, reasons why humankind has not returned to the Moon, secret space programs and break-away civilization theories, billionaires' private space hobbies, the difficulties of keeping humans alive off of Earth, the "Star Trek" universe as post-capitalist, Moon landing denial, questions about Stanley Kubrik and the lunar footage, Robert C. Hoagland and "edited lunar material", Ingo Swann, structures on the Moon, legends of an Asian female mummy found on the Moon, rather odd reactions by Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin's UFO sightings, Sedona and the face on Mars, George Lucas's esoteric references, climate change, the "Star Wars" universe, art vs. business, the phenomenon of being so rich/successful that no one can question you, Star Wars vs. Star Trek in philosophy/ideology, "The Nine", Andrija Puharich, D. G. Vinod, Gene Roddenberry, Trekkies, the 1960 French book "The Morning of the Magicians" and the 9 Unknowns, the power of narratives, the 17th century Rosicrucians, John Dee's Enochian magick and the British Empire, the Masonic origins of the United States, Netflix series from Iceland "Katla", "Sasquatch" series, Jacques Vallee's experiences with hippies and bikers, the archetype of the Wild Man.
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