1 FEB 2024 · Season finale. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark Featuring: Eric Carter-Landin from https://www.trueconsequences.com and https://www.basementfortproductions.com Albert Perkins Resources: - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10508610802471104 - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00918369.2018.1522809 - https://www.nytimes.com/1990/07/10/science/homophobia-scientists-find-clues-to-its-roots.html - https://harvardpolitics.com/why-your-religion-is-not-an-excuse-to-discriminate/ - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3523746/ - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2589133/ - https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbtq/history - https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674022331 - https://thehill.com/homenews/lgbtq/4259292-fbi-crime-statistics-show-anti-lgbtq-hate-crimes-on-the-rise/ - https://www.thetrevorproject.org/resources/article/facts-about-lgbtq-youth-suicide/ - https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/fbis-annual-crime-report-amid-state-of-emergency-anti-lgbtq-hate-crimes-hit-staggering-record-highs This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: https://www.bothand.fyi/ For an ad-free experience: https://patreon.com/studiobothand Music by: Adi Goldstein Featured music by: Frank Ocean

31 GEN 2024 · Catch up on all things Studio BOTH/AND for the month of February (and beyond). This month's news: • New tours and events • Unsafe Spaces update • The Karen & Ellen Letters update • True Crime Bullsh** update • New projects • Our Americana update • Studio BOTH/AND Launch Party follow-up in The Berkshires this October • What's happening on Patreon this month Links: • https://www.truecrimepodcastfestival.com, use promo code JOSH for 15% off • https://www.patreon.com/StudioBothAnd

25 GEN 2024 · To better understand Lorenzo and Schweickert, their possible other crimes, and their MOs and victimology, Josh chats with clinical psychologist Dr. Scott (LA Not So Confidential) about killers who work in pairs, BDSM, Antisocial Personality Disorder, psychopathy, narcissism, and how homophobia made their ongoing crimes possible. Plus: The Warrior gene, behavioral drift, Kanye West, Anita Bryant, and more. Next episode: 1 February 2024 This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark Featuring: Dr. Scott from the https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/ This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: https://www.bothand.fyi/ For an ad-free experience: https://patreon.com/studiobothand Music by: Color Book, Yehezkel Raz, Adi Goldstein, Infinity Lab, and Yotam Agam Featured music by: Perfume Genius

11 GEN 2024 · At trial and at sentencing, Lorenzo's many surviving victims testified against him, including the impactful statements made by Albert Perkins, who Lorenzo kidnapped and assaulted in February of 2000. The testimony and eventual plea deals made by both Schweickert and Lorenzo would provide great insight into their MOs and victimology. But at what cost? Because by some accounts, investigators and the prosecution were as hard on the survivors as they were Lorenzo himself. Next episode: 25 January 2024 This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark Resources: - Fox 13 Tampa Bay: https://www.fox13news.com/news/nothing-behind-his-eyes-his-face-was-contorted-victim-of-steven-lorenzo-woke-up-panicked - The Tampa Bay Times: https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2006/01/28/defiant-lorenzo-gets-200-years/ - The Netflix documentary Victim/Suspect: https://www.netflix.com/title/81288561 Featuring: Albert Perkins This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: https://www.bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: https://patreon.com/studiobothand Music by: Circles, Field, Yehezkel Raz, and Ahimsa Featured music by: Rufus Wainwright

16 NOV 2023 · Scott Schweickert's house is searched, disturbing photos are found on Steven Lorenzo's computer, more Lorenzo assault victims come forward, someone confesses, and another gay man goes missing. Unsafe Spaces is on a mid-season break, and will return on January 4. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark With additional research by: Kaz Featuring: • Dr. Scott from LA Not So Confidential • Drew Mackie from Gayest Episode Ever This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: https://bothand.fyi/ For an ad-free experience: https://patreon.com/studiobothand Music by: Evolving Scapes, Grisly Bill, Light in the Shadow, Hynogogia, Yehezkel Raz, and Yotam Agam Featured music by: Chris Garneau

9 NOV 2023 · Steven Lorenzo's friend and accomplice is identified as Scott Schweickert. And the pair's history is revealed through AOL instant messages and a mutual friend. Tampa PD investigate multiple assaults within the Tampa gay community, leading to an arrest and a second search warrant. And the relationship between Steven and Scott gets complicated. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark With additional research by: Kaz Audio editing by Darron Wood (The Defense Diaries podcast) This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: https://bothand.fyi/ For an ad-free experience: https://patreon.com/studiobothand Resources include: • The Charlie Project • NAMUS • The Tampa Bay Times: Which one is the real Scott? • Newspapers.com • https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/24/us/florida-travel-advisory-human-rights-campaign/index.html • https://www.eqfl.org/fired Music by: Yehezkel Rez, Circles, The Bows, Spiriturn, and Colour Book Featured music by: Owen Pallett

26 OTT 2023 · Steven Lorenzo comes to the forefront of Tampa PD's investigation into the disappearance of Jason Galehouse and the death of Michael Wachholtz. Lorenzo's criminal history leads to a sting operation that ends in a very haunting search of his home, and lists of some very important names. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark With additional research by: Kaz Featuring: Jason Leroy (The Binge Movie Podcast) This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: https://bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: https://patreon.com/studiobothand Resources include: • The Charlie Project • NAMUS • Uncovered • The Tampa Bay Times • Newspapers.com • The Albuquerque Journal • https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/amr511222005en.pdf Music by: Yehezkel Rez, Yotam Agam, Theatre of Delays, Grisly Bill, and Benjamin Esterlis Featured music by: Jacob Fossum

19 OTT 2023 · On December 22, 2003, two gay men were reported missing to Tampa PD. The investigations into their disappearances, would open a Pandora's Box that would force the police, the media, and society to examine how their actions and negligence led to some of Florida's most sinister crimes. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by: Kaz. Featuring: Eric Schmidt and Dr. Scott (LA Not So Confidential). This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: http://www.truecrimebullshit.com/ / http://www.bothand.fyi/ For an ad-free experience: https://www.patreon.com/studiobothand Resources include: • The Charlie Project • NAMUS • Uncovered • Clearwater Police Department • The Tampa Bay Times: https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2004/02/24/time-is-enemy-in-riddle-of-killing/ https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2004/02/20/how-man-died-remains-a-mystery/ https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1990/08/04/gay-sting-in-parks-nets-fifth-suspect/ Music by: Colour Book, Yehezkel Rez, Roniit, Raz Burg, Raz Burg, and Yotam Agam Featured music by: Josef Salvat

23 AGO 2023 · For close to two decades, gay men in Tampa were disappearing at an alarming rate. It was only as America became more accepting of the LGBTQ+ community that people, and the media, actually started to care that these men were missing. And in the wake of a decades-long battle for equality, it was all the more devastating for the gay community to discover: It was one - or maybe even two - of their own who were responsible for what would become some of Florida’s most heinous and disturbed crimes. Unsafe Spaces continues the style and ambition of host Josh Hallmark's True Crime Bullsh** podcast. It is obsessive, curious, challenging; and examines not just the crimes it covers, but the cultural and political impacts of and on them. Unsafe Spaces arrives in your podcast feed on October 19th.