12 NOV 2026 · In this episode of Table 4: Chefs’ Notes, Steve Martin and Martin Short bring a little show business to the kitchen as they read our slow-cooked tomato sauce recipe, with a banjo, impressions and plenty of laughter. Then I’m joined by River Café Executive Chef Joseph Trivelli, my cooking companion of more than 25 years, to share the secrets of a great tomato sauce. From choosing the right tomatoes and cooking the garlic gently to the importance of time, Joe offers his tips for making it at home. We also debate onions, herbs and the all-important question: should you ever put cheese on tomato pasta? If you enjoy this podcast, leave us a REVIEW, hit FOLLOW, and turn your notifications ON to make sure you never miss an episode. Join the Ruthie’s Table 4 community on social. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ruthiestable4 TikTok: tiktok.com/@ruthiestable4 YouTube: youtube.com/@RuthiesTable4Pod Shop River Café Books and more… http://www.shoptherivercafe.co.uk Contact us: Ruthiestable4pod@gmail.com Credits Presented by Ruthie Rogers: https://www.instagram.com/ruthierogers Producer: Robbie Hamilton Editor: Julia Johnson YouTube Editor: Andrew Tsang Production Manager: Bella Salini Executive Producers: Ruthie Rogers, Zad Rogers Recorded at: River Café: https://www.rivercafe.co.uk/ Ruthie’s Table 4 is an Atomized Studios production: https://www.atomizedstudios.tv/See https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.