13 APR 2023 · AJ and Ludic discuss abortion on the podcast Date, Sex, and Love. AJ introduces the topic, and Ludic starts off by saying that she has a lot to say on the issue and not to hate her for her opinion. She states that she is pro-life and believes that those who are pro-choice are selfish and not looking at the big picture. They further discuss the implications of abortion, such as the potential for infanticide. They also discuss the impact of abortion on relationships, and how it can have a lasting effect on a couple. They also talk about the importance of making sure that both parties in a relationship are on the same page when it comes to the decision to have an abortion. Ultimately, AJ and Ludic agree that abortion is a difficult decision and one that should be made with care and consideration. This conversation was between two people discussing the topic of abortion and the concept of from the minutes of conception. The person being educated explained that when the sperm meets the egg, life begins and every fetus deserves to live. They spoke about the great people in our world, such as Obama, Marcus Zuckerbeck and Angelique Maya, and how if they had been aborted, the world would be a very different place. The other person suggested that instead of aborting, people should adopt those that want and can't have children. They went on to discuss the idea of giving a second chance to those who have done wrong and even if they repent, they still advocated for pro-life. It was concluded that the other person was totally against abortion. This conversation focuses on the controversial topic of abortion. The person speaking is firmly against it and believes that the woman should deal with the consequences of her decisions. However, the speaker acknowledges that there are certain medical situations where abortion is necessary. They also bring up the possibility of a naive little girl getting pregnant and feeling like she can't handle the responsibility of being a mother. They express that although being a mother comes with physical and emotional maturity, it can be a struggle for the mother to still find time for herself. The speaker ultimately argues that although there are difficult situations where an abortion is necessary, it should not be used in a selfish manner. The conversation focuses on the morality of abortion and the consequences of not being mature enough to deal with the emotions that come with being a mother. The speaker brings up a story of a woman who murdered her child due to depression, a condition known as postpartum depression. They discuss the social welfare system in Nigeria and how it may be able to help a woman in such a situation. The speaker then states that nothing justifies infanticide, even if the mother was raped or involved in incest. They bring up the example of Harry Song, who allegedly was a product of incest, and make the point that no child deserves to die for the wrongdoings of their parents.
Timestamps0:00:00
Episode 4: Unpopular Opinions on Abortion - Pro-Life vs Pro-Choice
0:03:14
Heading: Pro-Life Discussion on Abortion
0:05:13
Discussion on Abortion: Examining the Reasons Behind a Woman's Decision
0:07:33
Discussion on the Impact of Teen Pregnancy and Incest on Children
0:11:47
"Advice for Women Who Have Experienced Abortion"
0:15:08
Discussion on Abortion: Exploring Alternatives to Abortion
0:19:00
Heading: The Importance of Contraception and Abstinence in Preventing Unwanted Pregnancies
0:20:26
Discussion on Responsible Sexual Practices and Reproductive Options
0:23:07
Reflection on a Pro-Life Perspective: A Personal Experience
0:26:21
"The Risk of Committing Abortion: A Personal Story"
0:30:07
Discussion on Abortion: Side Effects and Alternatives
0:33:35
"Uterine Preparation, Abstinence, and Adoption: A Pro-Life Discussion"
HighlightsBut if you can't hold yourself again, I would say recap abstinence is key. Abortion is not. Right. I don't agree to it. I'm pro life. If you are scared of the responsibilities of having children, then have the child and place the child for adoption. And you'll be helping someone else that needs a child because children are blessings. And also, what else? Again, if you can't hold your body, you don't want to, whatever..
What else are we going to see?
So, yeah, that journey, that feeling was nothing to write home about. So to myself, I'm pro life because you thought the way I was arguing to you back and forth. I argue with it because of the decisions that lead these situations that lead to you or to the woman making the decision of having an abortion. Those decisions should not be ignored. That's my own. They shouldn't be ignored. They shouldn't be discarded.. I feel like we should understand where they are coming from, understand that decision. But yet again, make them to also love the fact that there is a life in them. Even if it's one week or two days, you've still created a life. And that life you've created does not deserve to be punished because of your shame mistake or your mistake. Give the life the opportunity to live. So, yeah, I'm pro life.
But then again, like you've said, why then have sex, unprotected sex, if you know you're not ready to have a children? So I think that's really the takeaway the takeaway here today. If you know within your heart you're not ready for the responsibility of another life, you're not ready for the responsibility of taking care of someone else, putting that person first rather than yourself, then don't have unprotected sex.. Don't get into it. Use your contraceptives. Use a condom. Use your contraceptive pills for ladies. Even now they're condoms for women right now. Educate yourself on contraceptives. Don't do pull out game, please. If a guy comes to you and tell you that, oh my God, me my pulled out game is badass, it's a lie, please don't believe that lie. Don't believe the pull out game. Tell him to use a condom. If he's not ready to use a condom, my sister, get yourself appeal. Get yourself a morning after pill.
She eventually left the relationship. She left the relationship and she went to take care of herself, make herself be better person. She went to get an education, she learned skills and now she's in a relationship whereby he's about to get married. And yes, she's all up for having a child. She can't wait to have a child because now she's in that mental stability. She's ready to have a child. There are some people that they feel that they are not ready.
A family was not really supportive and she knew that she didn't have a good standing to raise a child on her own. So probably, yeah, maybe she should have had the child and give it up for adoption. But she felt that the child deserves better. If she wants to bring a child to this world, the child should deserve better rather than putting the child through hardship or putting the child through hunger and all that. So that was why she decided to have the abortion.