Seriah and Taylor Bell (of The Green Lio Podcast) interview journalist and author Anthony Tyler. Topics include esoterica, comparative religion, Forteana, Jungian philosophy, horror as an artistic genre, alternative storytelling, living in Alaska, true crime, Jacque Vallee, John Keel, Charles Fort, Manly P. Hall, empiricism vs. scientificism, Colin Wilson, Carl Jung's personal experiences with the paranormal, Jungian archetypes, the concept of shadow, Masonic allegory, memetics, flaws of New Age thinking, interaction between the objective and subjective, sleep paralysis, encountering entities in dreams, the nature of dreaming, releasing and purging tension, phantom-limb syndrome, Sandra Blakeslee and V. S. Ramachandran, balancing light and dark, shadow work, the necessity of challenges in life, poltergeist phenomenon, UFOs, the intersection of various paranormal phenomena, Dr. Richard Gallagher, exorcism and mental illness, aliens without the ETH, difficulties in present-day journalism, human vulnerabilities in space travel and exploration, break-away civilization hypothesis, astrology as a philosophy, the Great Platonic Year/Equinox Precession, the UFO as archetype, Erich von Däniken, hypnosis, cults, epilepsy and spiritual visions, serial killers, memes as metaphorical viruses, demonology as a metaphor for psychological/psychiatric issues, heuristic techniques, well-targeted skepticism, and much more! This is a wide-ranging, fascinating discussion that leaves the listener hungry for more!

- Recap by Vincent Treewell

Outro Music by Mothers of Jupiter with Drop the Needle.