This year’s U.N. Climate Conference has already been a historic one in the nearly 30-year timespan of the COP process because it’s the first time there’s been a day dedicated to the linkages between climate change and health.

Health advocates are drawing attention to the growing public health emergency surrounding the burning of fossil fuels, especially in the wake of controversial comments made by COP 28 President Sultan Ahmed al-Jaber in which he said there is “no science” that says phasing out fossil fuels is necessary to keep global warming in check.

“Fossil fuel phase-out is the most effective and the most important public health intervention of our times,” said Marina Romanello, executive director of the Lancet Countdown on climate change and health. Romanello joined Devex global health reporter Jenny Lei Ravelo on the ground at COP 28 for the latest episode of the Climate + podcast.

“We heard from Dr. al-Jaber talking that there’s no scientific evidence — that's absolute nonsense,” Romanello said. “There’s more than enough scientific evidence showing us that we absolutely are in trouble, that we absolutely must phase out fossil fuels.”

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