In the latest episode of Columbia House Party, hosts Jake Goldsbie and Blake Murphy are joined by comedian Lauren Mitchell (host of the @cavernofsecrets podcast) to discuss Death Cab For Cutie’s enormous 2003 hit Transatlanticism. The podcast will explore bands that performed at The Bait Shop on the hit show The OC, which served as a snapshot and elevator of the early-2000s indie rock scene. Find out more about Ben Gibbard’s workmanlike songwriting approach for Transatlanticism, what character Lauren compares Jake to a grown-up and divorced version of, and what teenage attachments the group has to Death Cab on this week’s podcast.

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