In this episode, the founding director of SAHA Studio, a programme designed for artists and curators to interact and produce, and curator Çelenk Bafra is in conversation with a SAHA Studio resident Merve Ünsal, Özgür Demirci from the İzmir Cultural Iniative Platform and Ute Meta Bauer and David Teh from the curatorial team of the 17th Istanbul Biennial. The topic of the conversation is the place of residency programmes in the art ecology, its potential and its limits.