Welcome to the perfect storm. Today's interview is with Sarah Treleaven, a writer, who produced and hosted the new podcast about Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell, called The Followers: Madness of Two. You will hear a trailer at the top of the episode!

In keeping with the 'Cult Adjacent' series, we discuss how Lori and Chad's beliefs factor into this story. Was Chad a cult leader? Was Lori a follower? Or vice versa?

OR are the doomsday beliefs just a distraction for us, and a justification for what this story is really about: sex and money ?

Listen to this interview, then check out the whole 'Madness of Two' series if you haven't already. Even if you know a lot about this case, I can almost promise you will learn something new! This is one we will be keeping an eye on as it is playing out in Idaho courts we speak.

LISTEN TO MADNESS OF TWO:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-followers-madness-of-two/id1582696272

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