In this jam packed episode, the gang welcomes Dr Marlene Winell and an old favorite: Dr Darrel Ray. Both psychologists chime in on the upcoming conference in Vancouver in April 2020 as well as their thoughts on teaching religious dogma to children, the effects it has on growing up and the difficulties of escaping what is clearly psychological abuse no matter what the faith is.

http://www.cort2020.com

to find Dr Winell https://marlenewinell.net/index.html

Dr Darrel Ray http://www.recoveringfromreligion.org

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