Pope Francis has been labeled the "Change Pope." Was it enough? Too much? What were his strengths and weaknesses. What to expect from the next Pope.

**Overall Summary:**
Reverend Dr. Sheri Pallas and guests Ashley Lavadier and Father Tim Warren discuss the legacy of Pope Francis, analyzing his strengths, weaknesses, and hopes for the next Pope. The conversation includes his openness towards the LGBT community, controversial statements, his engagement with other religions, and the vitriol surrounding his death from some religious groups. They also address the potential direction of the Catholic Church and the importance of maintaining a message of love and inclusivity.

**Timestamp Summaries:**
*   **0:00-05:00:** Topic intro, guest introductions, reactions.
*   **5:00-10:00:** Pope's positive impact on coming out.
*   **10:00-15:00:** Trans comments; actions vs. words
*   **15:00-20:00:** Anti-trans, but met transgender woman
*   **20:00-25:00:** The importance of hope, not fear.
*   **25:00-30:00:** How far is church to progress
*   **30:00-35:00:** Remember, no one is actually perfect.
*   **35:00-40:00:** He may have made the end.