Join Bobbi and Rabbi Avi as they have a conversation with Sarah Hurwitz. Sarah, A former speechwriter for Michelle Obama and the author of Here All Along, talks about the ideas in her book, learning what Judaism has to say before you reject it, and whether increased knowledge about Judaism is better than increased practice.

Find out more about Sarah's book at https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/43289179-here-all-along

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Theme music 'Interlude' by Tzara.