Former Silver Fern and police officer turned TV presenter Jenny-May Clarkson joined Niva and Beatrice on this week's episode to discuss what she's learned over her varied career. Beginning from her time as the youngest of six children growing up in rural New Zealand to hosting the country's top TV breakfast show, Clarkson talks about her lifelong determination and will to succeed, and how, despite her amazing career, she still battles insecurities while on air today. They also discuss the power in speaking your truth, her whirlwind romance with her husband, and embracing her culture.