In this podcast, the speakers, who are host Dan McLauglin and Flying  Karamavov Brother founder Howard Patterson reflecting on Howard's career, discuss his journey from college to becoming successful jugglers and entertainers. The conversation highlights his experiences at UC Santa Cruz in the early 1970s, where he began juggling and performing at Renaissance Fairs. He emphasize the importance of audience interaction and timing in their performances, which evolved from street shows to theater productions. The speaker recounts how he developed his comedic style and the significance of audience feedback in shaping his act.

They also discuss what it like to see others do thier material and how his parents reacted to his running way and joining the circus,They also touch on the broader impact of his work on the New Vaudeville movement and the evolution of performance art at Renaissance Fairs. This discussion is important as it illustrates the transformative power of performance and the creative processes behind engaging with audiences, showcasing how their experiences contributed to a shift in entertainment culture. The podcast serves as a reflection on his artistic journey and the legacy he created in the performing arts. He also talks about his book.