Traci & Tracey continue their conversation with Stacy Ruffer, high school English and Computer Science teacher, this week. Stacy shares how he keeps his own passion for English alive by being part of a teacher book club and continuing his own learning of computer science by challenging himself to learn a new coding language. The discussion explores motivating students with coding events, getting kids real-life, job-related experience, and building relationships with kids. We also dive into a conversation about ChatGPT's usefulness in the classroom as a tool in both the English and Computer Science classrooms.