In this episode, Kirsten Potenza features New York Times Best Seller and Founder of Ban.do, Jen Gotch.

What starts off with the simple question of “how are you?” turns into a deep conversation about vulnerability, hustle culture and why you can’t do it all. Throughout the chat, we’ll see examples of how beneficial it is to get out of your normal setting, why doing your best is enough and learning to leap when something is meant to happen.

You can purchase a copy of Jen’s book The Upside of Being Down on her website at jengotch.com and follow her company Ban.do on instagram at @shopbando.

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