In this remastered conversation, I speak with former co-leader of the Covenant, the Sword and the Arm of the Lord (CSA). Unfortunately, I found out recently that Kerry passed away last year. It was a very quiet event, with no mention of it in the anti-cult community. This deeply saddened me as Kerry spent so much of his life attempting to reconcile for his earlier years, take accountability for his actions and teach the world how hate can manifest and become deadly, just like it does in today's far-right and extremist hate groups. Kerry was unabashedly honest about his crimes, his moral injuries and his attempts to teach love instead of hate. His book series "Tabernacle of Hate" will be a legacy of Kerry's later years as a writer and motivational speaker against hate. Thank you Kerry for your time, your wisdom, your honesty and your years spent teaching us. 

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