"Feminism is Marxism with extra steps — take out the capitalist, slot in men, with even less evidence than Marx had."

Brian and Alison watch Julia Long's Battle of Ideas talk arguing that trans women are the real manosphere, and that she is being pushed out of the movement she helped build.

Also: what happens when the framework you spent fifty years building gets applied to you by someone else, why the pornography argument keeps arriving without a connecting sentence, the domestic violence figures nobody reads past the first line, and a frontier on Venus.

"None of this has any grounding. It's somebody's drunken ramblings on a napkin. Some woman had a dream once and woke up really upset at her husband."

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