On this week's episode of Datemare with Hayley Marie Norman we welcome Ishmel Sahid (Freevee's Jury Duty). Hayley loved this convo so much, that she's releasing it as a two part special!

On part 1, Hayley opens up about the anxiety she feels hosting a podcast about dating. This is perhaps the most vulnerable she's been on the pod?! Ishmel comes with thoughtful questions that really get Hayley thinking yet out of her head at the same time.

Hayley tells Ishmel that she could never send a "like" on a dating app first and Ish is like, but is it that serious tho?! She could also literally never bring herself to ask someone out! Surprise suprise but Hayley can actually be SHY!

Hayley reads an embarrasing exchange she recently had on the dating app Raya. They also discuss the best way to get a convo going and how to move past mundane conversations. (Pls, as a stranger on the internet, don't ever message me asking, "How was your day?"!! And while we're at it, I don't want to know how your day was either. I literally don't know you. You could tell me you killed someone and I wouldn't even pause Seinfeld. Just say something funny! But it can't be a dad joke, I hate those. OMG wow, dating is impossible?? *I'M* impossible?!?)

Ish and Hayley share thoughts on their ideal partners. Hayley's life is so full and beautiful and she reflects on how the expression of love for all is what life is all about. <3

Now y'all be careful out there cuz these dates just keep Datemaring!

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