Former member of the occult secret society (Hermetic order of the Golden Dawn) Jac Marino comes on the show and talks to Chuck and gives her testimony about leaving this secret society and giving herself over to Jesus. She speaks about the types of things they would teach while in the dark arts and just what lead her to that. So many things we normally talk about on the show were confirmed as speaks about her experiences with shadow people, aliens, and rituals done in masonic lodges. It was amazing to see how God brought her into the light!