In part two of our special podcast we talk with Steven Bobo. Steven is an advocate in criminal justice reform, was once a correctional officer who later found himself incarcerated. He went on to work with at risk teens and develop many advocacy groups on his own. He is now a published author.

We also spoke with Darla, a parent and an advocate, who is watching helplessly as the covid19 begins spreading in prison facilities in her state. She talks to us about the issues that he son faces during this crisis and what her day looks like knowing that she is powerless to help him.

Credit: Intro Eric Wellman - award winning journalist and previous host of Morning Edition on Cleveland's NPR news station. Voted best radio anchor in Ohio 2010 by the Associated Press.

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