Rick Heller is John’s guest on this CHI FOR YOURSELF. Rick leads meditations at the Humanist Community at Harvard. In this interview he tells us that meditation is actually an age-old secular practice with numerous scientifically verified physical and psychological benefits- a meditation you can be comfortable with even if you have no religious leanings. Rick Heller is the author of "Secular Meditation: 32 Practices for Cultivating Inner Peace, Compassion, and Joy."