On this Podcast, Brian Vander Ark of The Verve Pipe joins John Gonzalez and Amy Sherman of MLive as a guest on West Michigan Live on WOOD Radio in Grand Rapids. Host Justin Barclay asks Brian about the current state of music. John asks about songwriting, including why a song like The Freshmen has stood the test of time. The song was a No. 1 hit in 1997. The Verve Pipe performs Feb. 10, 2018 at 20 Monroe Live in Grand Rapids.

More info on The Verve Pipe at https://www.thevervepipe.com/

More info on WOOD Radio at https://woodradio.iheart.com/featured/west-michigan-live/

More info on John and Amy at http://www.mlive.com/michigansbest/

This episode aired on Feb. 8, 2018.