“We need to talk to each other and surrender, not capitulate, but surrender to each other. You can say 'I'm so scared. I don't know how I'm going to make it through the day' and have the other person say 'me too. But I felt that way yesterday and I made it free yesterday. I have no reason to believe I won't make it through it today'. Wow. So here is our opportunity to develop a language of connectedness.”

This is Boundless Rebooted. During #Covid-19, we are broadcasting daily. Sharing messages from international Thought Leaders, about mental wellness, about leadership and about the opportunities we have right now to make our world more resilient, collaborative and sustainable.

This episode is part 2 with Dr. Mark Goulston. Mark is a leadership consultant to major organisations. His book, Just Listen, ranked #1 in six Amazon categories and has been translated into 14 languages. Mark has been UCLA professor of psychiatry for over 25 years, and is a former FBI hostage negotiation trainer.

I started by asking Mark, how do we avoid becoming tribal at a time like this.