This week, we're sharing a conversation Anita Hill had on another Pushkin show, Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso. Talk Easy is a different kind of interview show, where guests slow down and share how they arrived at the place they're at today—and where they hope to go tomorrow. In this episode, Anita replays the phone call she received from President Biden in 2019, the weight of her decision to speak out against Clarence Thomas, the significance of Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson's Supreme Court confirmation, her mother's enduring influence, and a poem by Pauli Murray that keeps the song of hope alive in her. You can hear more episodes of Talk Easy at https://link.chtbl.com/gettingeventalkeasy Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.