Shane Moyer says the recent Echo Essentials podcasts featuring local politicians, police chief and business representatives didn't have the street-level perspective. Moyer, who is trying to help through the Homeless Advocates group, has gone through addiction treatment, lived on the street and was a criminal during the dark times.

He says the Northern Pines transitionary treatment program might work for some, but he is a proponent of a co-operative venture proposal in a more farm-like setting. They have a 23-page plan that would offer more natural and homeopathic addiction treatment options, he said, while also stressing that a business operation tied to it would help them become self-dependent. Before the interview, co-hosts Scott Clark and Dave Dale discuss other city issues, including the mis-matching City Hall windows.