In this episode, Greta Nasi and Colin MacArthur discuss what value is at risk in case of cyber-attacks for the competitiveness of firms and how current technological developments may affect not only the economic advantages of states but also national security. Thanks to their guests Matteo Bonfanti in charge of International Strategic Relations at the Italian Cybersecurity Agency; Kevin Desouza, Professor, Queensland University of Technology; Enrico Mercadante from Cisco, Giuseppe Russo, from AWS and Oreste Pollicino, Professor at Università Bocconi.